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Recording the KN's styles with an organ

hathersage

hathersage
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Hallo Mike, As you know I bought the KN 7000 for the excellent backings and all the extra styles you can get on SD cards.
I am highly delighted of course and most times use organ voices with the KN backing, they mix well but there is a big but..........

But this had never happened to me before. In the past I have mixed the organ sounds with a variety of modules for their backings over the years and have recorded the mix onto cassettes from the organ's Aux outlets but with the KN this does not seem possible.

I am probably using the possibly the worst equipment which is a cassette player recorder, but have always been able to use the organ's Aux outlet sockets plugged directly into the recorder and record in real time the outputs from both units through the organs Aux circuit. this does not seem to be the case anymore but it always worked before with previous units I have owned. I know that I should be using the main KN outlets for recording but they are needed to send the rhythm audio signals to the organ, Perhaps there is such a thing as a junction or a splitter of some sort so I could connect the main outlets to the recorder and the same audio to the Aux In socket of the organ .. ( it has just occurred to me that even if possible this may reduce the volume )

I have to use the rear Main Output sockets on the KN to feed the rhythm into the organ which I believe is standard practice but wondered if the Sub Out sockets could be utilized in any way to mix both sounds and feed into the cassette player as well as the organ, ( don't really fully understand their function) . perhaps this problem has come up before.

It will be a great shame if this is an impossible task and will torpedo some of my plans, I'm just hoping I have got it all wrong and there is some simple way out ! Regards Ken ,

Posted on September 14, 2015 at 2:32 PM
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Re: Recording the KN's styles with an organ

Hi Ken,

The method you're using should work but I don't fully understand your setup to be able to answer in detail. It's not how I would record though so here's what I would do:

Cassette Recorder

For this approach I would route from the organ's output into the KN7000 line in. You could use the headphones output if there's no other good output. If the results are too quiet you could route in to the microphone input but go for line in first. Then I would record from the KN7000's line outs. This will let you adjust the organ's volume in the mix and ensure that you get a good stereo recording from the KN7000.

On Computer

I would proceed exactly as above (connecting audio from the organ to the KN7000) but I would use the KN7000's USB connection to record onto the computer using the Panasonic Audio Recorder that comes with the KN7000. This will give you a CD quality recording, it should be better than cassette with very little background noise.

You could then record from your computer's headphones socket to cassette if you wanted to. This method retains the highest quality original recording digitally on your computer.

Panasonic Audio Recorder is very simple to use and if you don't have the original KN7000 CD it's available on this website on the KN7000 software page

Best wishes,
Mike

Posted on September 14, 2015 at 6:29 PM

hathersage

hathersage
United Kingdom

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Re: Recording the KN's styles with an organ

Hi Mike, Thanks for the help, I really should have been able to work that out for myself but I had entirely forgotten about using the headphone socket as a option , a case of lack of lateral thinking apart from anything else !

As soon as I connected the organ’s aux out to the KN’s Aux Line In it worked the two unit’s sounds mixed at the headphone outlet . Magic !, it was then that it suddenly dawned on me exactly what you had said and I realized I do not need a cassette recorder at all because of the capability of the KN to record.

My problem is that using the KN just as a backing unit I never explored the other capabilities of it as I should have done because I thought I would never need them and also I convinced myself that I needed a recorder because that was the way it worked with expanders. It just goes to show how set in one’s ways you can become.

So the plan now is that tune by tune they will be played and recorded in the KN and then transferred by USB direct to the computer. (anyone want to buy a cassette recorder ) !

Posted on September 15, 2015 at 1:43 PM

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Re: Recording the KN's styles with an organ

Hi Ken,

You won't be able to record the organ onto the KN7000 itself, you'll still need to have them both playing at the same time. Then record onto cassette or onto your computer using the USB lead.

KN7000 plays Audio but it doesn't record Audio.

Best wishes,
Mike

Posted on September 15, 2015 at 8:38 PM

hathersage

hathersage
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Re: Recording the KN's styles with an organ

Hi Mike, I have finally managed to sort out (what for me) is the best configuration, not I fancy to everyone's liking and of course compromises had to be made to overcome some of the problems I encountered so I doubt there will be many takers on this an an option of making music !

But I have put together some Set up and Operating notes with a few photos of the weird array of connections I made, if anyone would like to see copies please E-mail me or perhaps ( through Mike ? ) I have also managed to make a couple of test recordings to make sure the whole thing works !

Posted on October 22, 2015 at 3:06 PM

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Re: Recording the KN's styles with an organ

Hi Ken,

Yes please do email me and I'll see what I can add to the site, it will be very interesting to see what you've done.

Are you going to share some of your recordings with us too? ;)

Cheers,
Mike

Posted on October 25, 2015 at 9:20 PM