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The Hammond sound

RMepstead

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Has anyone managed to get anywhere near to the classic Hammond sound such as used by the likes of Booker T and Steve Winwood. If so what did you do and can I copy that on my KN7000?

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Posted on March 2, 2017 at 9:45 PM
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Re: The Hammond sound

Hi Rog,

I can't help you with sending any files to you yet but I have a project on the go that I call Megahammond that I'll release later in the year. the aim of that project is to set up the whole KN7000 as closely as possible to Hammond sounds, including all of the accompaniments and some absolutely screaming solos on the Performance pads. So that's for the future but I'll write something about Hammond setups here. If it is well-received I'll do the same for KN6000 but it does mean repeating the whole setup as there's no easy way to do a clean transfer of this project. Our John D also has an organ project underway and I think that will be released in the next few weeks depending on how he's doing.

You'll know a lot of this info but hopefully it will help some other Members too.

When I'm looking to set up Hammond sounds I always refer to the following website which has a wealth of information about individual player setups:

Hammond Registrations

This doesn't necessarily directly help you for the players you mentioned but a Google search will. For example, Booker T Green Onions setup is something like:

888800000, 3rd harmonic percussion, soft, fast decay, Leslie on stop.

Steve Winwood often sent the drawbars signal to two Leslie's and I believe that one sent out a 'clean' signal and the other a normal leslie signal. More about that in a bit.

One of my favourite players is Tony Monaco. In my opinion he's one of the best in the World at the moment. He has also sent me midis of his playing so that I can use them in the Magahammond project. I've watched this following video over and over because it has so many tips in it:

Hammond Settings and Sounds

In the video he talks about some of the key points of achieving the Hammond sounds that we know and love.

About half way through he explains that he also often sends a clean signal and a 'Leslie' signal at the same time. We can do this on KN7000 by assigning two drawbars Parts to Right 1 or Right 2. One Part will have a drawbar setup with only a 'Chorus' applied and the other will have a 'Chorus' and a Leslie speaker applied.

In the case of Booker T's playing, when I listen carefully to alternate sections of Green Onions for example I hear a sort of distorted sound in some places and to recreate that a distortion effect can be applied, or you can use one of the distorted Leslie effects. It is pretty important NOT to use the standard KN7000 Leslie effect, there are some much better Leslie's available within KN7000 that sound more realistic for Hammond sounds.

I put 'Chorus' in inverted commas because the Hammond 'C3' Chorus is more like some of the KN7000's vibrato effects. 'C3 Chorus' does not refer to the model of the Hammond, it refers to the type of Chorus the player is using. Tony explains that further in the video I believe but it might be one of his other videos. C3 Chorus has quite a lot of motion in it and some vibrato as well. So, play with various chorus and vibrato effects in your KN to get close to that C3 Chorus, without a Leslie effect being added at first. Once you have a good 'Chorus' effect then add the Leslie as well.

When you watch Tony's video you'll see him 'Comping'. To do that on a single keyboard can be quite challenging. One way of doing it is to have two keybard setups in Panel Memory and then quickly switch between the two when you want to mimic comping on the lower manual of a Hammond.

Setup 1 - For Comping - Apply the same drawbars settings to the left hand and one of the right hand parts. This should be an 'accompaniment' registration with only a few drawbars being used, Tony describes his left hand setup, something like that. So, the whole keyboard sounds like the lower manual of a Hammond but you still have a split keyboard in order to trigger chords with your left hand. You could also add another Part to your left hand to add the 'bass click' that Tony talks about (unless you're using bass pedals). Reply to this post if you need help with assigning two Parts to one keyboard section. So, this is the setup you switch to when you want to do Comping.

Setup 2 - Keep the left hand the same as for Setup 1 and now add a right hand drawbars setting that is more for soloing. For this setup you can refer to Tony's video where he talks about his upper manual settings.

Just to reiterate, the drawbars sounds themselves are generated sine waves with some harmonics thrown in (say to differentiate between jazz and rock drawbars). On their own they sound very close indeed to a Hammond with the Leslie turned off. It takes quite a lot of creativity when you start adding effects and Leslies to the basic drawbars in order to get some realistic Hammond sounds. The default Leslie, Chorus and Vibrato effects are the ones to avoid, some of the alternative effects are way better.

Finally, I remember reading an article years ago where the writer had wanted to recreate his 'organ idol's' registrations. I've tried to search for it online but can't find it. Essentially, one day he got to sit by the side of the stage to watch his idol play and try to learn what registrations he used. What he found out was that the guy pulled out every drawbar all the way and turned the volume up till it started distorting. So, there you go, not as technical as expected in that instance! I suspect that Steve Winwood uses a similar registration fairly often!

Hope that helps a bit.... let's hear from some other Members too, whether you have some ideas to add here and also whether you are a fan of the Hammond sound because that will help us to motivate to complete our organ projects that we have underway. As I always say, when there's no feedback or if Members don't want certain projects then the motivation disappears and we pretty much move on to other things.

Best wishes,
Mike

Posted on March 4, 2017 at 8:10 PM

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Re: The Hammond sound

PS - Also remember to play with your equaliser settings whether that is your main equaliser or the equaliser for each individual Part. It can make quite a difference.

Posted on March 4, 2017 at 8:18 PM

RMepstead

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Re: The Hammond sound

Blimey Mike. Well done indeed. I'm copying that lot to read slowly and take in...chuckle.
Rog

Posted on March 5, 2017 at 2:37 PM

RMepstead

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Re: The Hammond sound

I've started reading...
Unless I'm misreading what you've written, you are saying that you can select the 'Leslie' effect in the KN7000.
Sorry but I can't find it anywhere having searched through all the effects choices.
Can you point me in the right direction please.

Posted on March 5, 2017 at 3:49 PM

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Re: The Hammond sound

Rog, I'm on my phone now so I cant double check. I think you press and hold the Sound DSP button to change the tremolo effect (rotary speaker). Cheers, Mike

Posted on March 6, 2017 at 12:24 AM

jd5live

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Re: The Hammond sound

Hi Roger I have just checked it out and I am now starting to add another layer of Hammond sounds that I have been working on. Oh Joy !!!! LOL.
John.

Posted on March 7, 2017 at 9:01 AM

RMepstead

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Re: The Hammond sound

Well done John. No stopping some folk...chuckle.

Posted on March 7, 2017 at 11:13 AM